Episode 18: Lulu, Nana, He Jiankui, and Gattaca

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We’ve talked about genetic engineering before, but when we hit on Dr. He Jiankui and his genetically modified infants, we may have missed something. After talking with a few people it seemed we needed an update to Episode 4 – Genetic Engineering. Ethical questions involve us all, and understanding where science stands on these issues is more important now than possibly ever before. Join hosts Shanti and Danny as we welcome someone who’s been featured in Popular Mechanic magazine, participated in multiple extreme sports, founded the non-profit organization Crossing Lines, oh and she holds a Doctorate in Cell and Molecular Biology and Biochemistry, Dr. Sonya Iverson. Tune in as we all discuss the ethics and questions surrounding this mysterious testing.


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